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So we have with us today Dr. Blair Dutty, local pediatrician extraordinaire UCLA alum.

Tell me about the moms who do their research and they're not for vaccination and European pediatrician. How do you talk to them?

Well, you know, I start with, what have you heard? What have you read that makes you nervous about the vaccines?

So I try to address that and they'll bring up autism because they've read that and I'll talk about the genesis of that, the famous Wakefield study,

and how it wasn't just bad medicine. It was literally fraudulent and he recruited kids with disabilities into the study and lost his license over that.

You know, it's funny because the convincing them there's partly as this data, what's the data say?

And unfortunately to convince them, you know, often have to have anecdotes, right?

And you know, like I have, there's been every year or two, there's a news article of a mom who lost their healthy 11-year-old to influenza.

That this healthy, perfect, non-asmatic diet of it. So I have some of those copies to get them and then I talk about my experience.

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