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A Passion for Saving People w/ Lucas Catton, ex-President of Narconon - S5E11pt2

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Scientology famously takes its members' best talents and passions and tries to make the most of them. For Lucas Catton, that came in the form of his recruitment as a program manager-- and his presidency of Scientology's front group rehabilitation facility. Narconon, located at the old Chilocco reservation in Oklahoma, is not just an isolated facility. The program is promoted in schools across the country as a teen rehabilitation program. Many were unaware that several of Narconon's credentials were fabricated, including Lucas. He tells us what led him to devote himself to this program, and walks us through his transformative experience. Lucas's latest passion project is the development of the Opioid Independence Program through Advanced Recovery Resources: http://advancedrecoveryresources.com/opioid-independence/ and his second book, "Reconnection", is available now: https://www.amazon.com/Reconnection-memoir-Lucas-Catton/dp/0578633108 Before You Go: Rachel explains the power of showing others that you value them. Empowerment can also be used to trick people into sabotaging themselves. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:14.2

Lucas Katun spent 12 years as a member of Scientology. Most of the time, he was also heavily

0:20.7

involved in its rehab program

0:22.4

called Narcanon, where he even served as the president of their flagship facility in Oklahoma

0:28.6

called Narcanon Arrowhead. His first book, Have You Told All, details some startling information

0:36.2

about their operations.

0:38.8

He then became a whistleblower,

0:41.2

appearing on national television and testifying for civil and criminal proceedings against Narcanon.

0:47.2

In the decades since he began his departure,

0:51.1

he has been rebuilding his life and continues to help others through work in the behavioral

0:55.8

health field and as a coach and a consultant. He recounts that rebuilding process and what he

1:03.7

has learned along the way in his latest book, Reconnection. You can find out more and reach him at Lucascaten.com. Here's Lucas with the second

1:16.9

part of our conversation today. So then when you were talking about the downturn 2006,

1:30.5

was there anything else you wanted to say before that time,

1:33.3

before we get into that story?

1:35.1

Well, I guess referencing the picture of the other picture that you saw.

1:38.0

Ah, right, thanks.

1:40.0

I,

1:41.1

Arrowhead was a very important fixture on the Scientology scene in the mid-2000s.

1:48.8

Tom Cruise got re-involved in Scientology back then and started speaking out again.

1:54.9

Arrowhead was promoted as the International Training Center to grow network networks throughout the world and

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