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Hello, and welcome to Batlisted, the podcast that gives new life to old books.

I'm Andy Miller, the author of The Year of Reading Dangerously, and I'm John Mitchinson,

publisher of Unbound.

And the reason we've done this the other way round, and we're a bit confused by doing,

aren't we, John?

We're old and setting our ways, is that we recorded a show in mid-July at the Byline Festival,

starting to in Hall in Devon, and so this episode is a bit different from what we usually

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