4.6 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Description
In this episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon sits down with pediatrician Dr. Joel Gator Warsh to confront the most concerning trends in children's health. Dr. Warsh, author of A Shot and a Hard Place, reveals the staggering rise of chronic disease and autism in children, arguing that it's a crisis that demands a deeper, more open conversation.
This is a brave and necessary discussion that moves beyond political rhetoric and into the science. Dr. Warsh, an epidemiologist, offers a candid perspective on the vaccine debate, challenging the notion that the "science is settled." He reveals the surprising truth about what research has and hasn't been done on the long-term effects of the cumulative vaccine schedule.
This episode is a must-listen for any parent who wants to be empowered with the knowledge to make informed decisions for their family and understand the true impact of our food system, environmental exposures, and sedentary lifestyles on the next generation.
Chapter Markers:
0:00 - The Chronic Disease Epidemic in Kids
2:51 - The Vaccine Debate: Risks vs. Benefits
4:06 - A Pediatrician's Take on the Newborn Hep B Vaccine
12:50 - The Alarming Rise in Autism Rates
15:09 - The Missing Research on the Vaccine Schedule
19:30 - How to Navigate Conflicting Information from RFK Jr.
40:01 - The Role of Environmental Toxins in Chronic Illness
44:50 - The Food System & The Epidemic of Childhood Obesity
50:11 - Screen Time & The Sedentary Child
55:50 - The Presidential Fitness Test Debate
1:00:03 - Safe Workouts for Kids & The Importance of Movement
1:11:31 - Final Thoughts on CDC, Personal Choice & The Road Ahead
Who is Joel Gator Warsh:
Joel Gator Warsh is a Board-Certified Pediatrician in Los Angeles, California who specializes in Parenting, Wellness and Integrative Medicine. He grew up in Toronto, Canada and completed degrees in Kinesiology, Psychology and Epidemiology and Community Health before earning his medical degree from Thomas Jefferson Medical College. He completed his Pediatric Medicine training at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles (CHLA) and worked in private practice in Beverly Hills before founding his current practice, Integrative Pediatrics and Medicine Studio City, in 2018. Dr. Gator has published research in peer-reviewed journals on topics including childhood injuries, obesity and physical activity. He has been featured in numerous documentaries, films, summits, podcasts and articles including CBS, Fox, LA Parent, Washington Post, MindBodyGreen, and many others. He is also the founder of the Parenting Masterclass Platform Raising Amazing which can be found at RaisingAmazingPlus.com. Dr. Joel Gator may be best known for his popular Instagram DrJoelGator where he offers weekly parenting and integrative pediatric support.
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| 0:00.0 | Do you think that vaccines cause autism? That is the most important question. We don't know. |
| 0:06.0 | If they are causing some of these concerns, we need to know that. There is no way you look around |
| 0:10.4 | California and one in 12.5 adult males have autism. That's insane. Something is happening. |
| 0:16.4 | A vaccine doesn't have zero risk. And so I think it's reasonable to say, okay, but what are the risks from this vaccine? If you don't feel like vaccines are the best thing for your kid, you should |
| 0:24.8 | be allowed not to take them. How many vaccines are children getting? It depends on which number |
| 0:31.1 | you look at and how you define it, but it'd be 30 to 50, even more so than that. It's not |
| 0:35.6 | unreasonable again to say, well, is it too many? |
| 0:38.3 | There is nothing that has shocked me more in my probably entire life than looking into the |
| 0:44.3 | autism research myself. So how can you say that vaccines don't cause autism? I think the biggest concern right now is the chronic disease epidemic. |
| 0:52.3 | I mean, we're seeing more and more kids sick, more and more kids having to take medications. |
| 0:57.0 | I think that's a massive concern. |
| 1:02.0 | 50% of kids have a chronic disease. |
| 1:04.0 | That number is staggering and it continues to get worse. |
| 1:07.0 | It wasn't like that just a few decades ago. |
| 1:09.0 | It was 5-10%. I am really excited to have you on. You're a pediatrician. And my number one goal for this |
| 1:21.2 | episode is how do we keep our kids safe? And my first question to you is, what are some of the most concerning trends |
| 1:29.3 | that you are seeing in childhood? I think the biggest concern right now is the chronic disease |
| 1:35.4 | epidemic. I mean, we're seeing more and more kids sick, more and more kids having to take medications, |
| 1:40.8 | 50% of kids have a chronic disease. And the latest statistics just came out and it's 75% of adults. |
| 1:46.5 | That number is staggering and it continues to get worse. It wasn't like that just a few decades ago. |
| 1:50.9 | It was 5-10%. So a lot of what we're doing is moving us in the wrong direction. |
| 1:55.5 | And by chronic disease, your biggest concern in terms of keeping kids healthy is what? |
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