Hey guys, Stephen, we had so much fun making thinking sideways and we really just love you guys so much

and I know there were a lot of questions about why we kept the feed live and why we asked you all

to say subscribe. And the reason for that was because we've been partnering with the producers of

CrimeCon in searching for the perfect podcast to fill that thinking sideways hole in your heart

and we have finally found it. It's called Shattered Souls, a forensic detective's diary presented

by CrimeCon. It's an emotional story by former Jacksonville-based forensic detective Karen Smith

and it's based primarily on her journal entries on the most haunting cases that she covered

during her career. I've listened to a few episodes and I can confirm it is a real pure joker

but it does what everybody is really trying to do in the true crime podcast realm and that is

she focuses on the victims. You may have met Karen at CrimeCon. Her passion is unparalleled.

She tells the stories of victims in these haunting cases in a way that will tug at your heartstrings

but also satisfy your curiosity when it comes to the forensic aspects and investigative methods

behind cases. We know you're really going to love Karen and we know that you're going to love

shattered souls so sit back, relax and enjoy. In this nightmare I'm back in the autopsy suite

and her teeth unstick from her lips and she gurgles at me. Please help me.

My name is Karen Smith. For 11 years I was a forensic detective in Jacksonville, Florida

but right now I'm just someone with stories to tell. Stories of victims you've likely never heard of

and the emotional toll that working around death and destruction has on the people tasked with

finding the answers to what happened to them. There are things about it that are deeply rooted.

There's just too much blood for that and sometimes you just can't get over it. I was scared to death.

We had a really worst-case scenario. None of it made any sense and when we rolled her body over

when you see something like that you get angry or you just shut it down. Detectives taped a

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