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All right, so I'm on a tour bus with Dave Wakeling of the English beat.

30-some years after the band was formed, he's still on the road playing ska songs from the late 70s and early 80s to several generations of fans.

Three decades of this stuff. For us, it followed straight after punk, and then in the 90s it followed a time where music had got kind of angry.

And then if you just stay angry and angry and angry, it just gets boring.

So you still may have stuff that you want to protest against in life generally, but you want

to be able to be exuberant rather than angry.

Scarf, it's the bill fantastic for that because it's upbeat but you can sing stuff that might

be, you know, social commentary and that's part of the, whether it comes from reggae or from the specials or, you know,

any of the various forms of scar, it tends to mix up.

Upbeat vibe, so from a distance, you go, oh, that's nice, what's that then?

And your ears cock up and you want to start moving,

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