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🗓️ 31 March 2020
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Paul Romer, a Nobel Prize-winning economist at New York University, argues that we can keep the economy from tanking during the coronavirus pandemic without risking people's health. We just need many, many more tests.
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0:48.6 | I'm Noah Feldman, and we are still talking about coronavirus. In particular, we're going to talk today about the interaction between the virus and the economy. |
1:00.0 | How soon can we go back to work? |
1:02.5 | How safe will that be? |
1:04.1 | How unsafe will we be if we don't look out for the economy? |
1:07.9 | To discuss these very difficult issues, I spoke to Paul Romer, a Nobel-winning |
1:13.4 | economist at New York University. He used to be the chief economist of the World Bank, and he's |
1:18.7 | been thinking hard about this subject. |
1:22.8 | Paul, thank you very much for joining me. I want to start with a very influential essay that you and |
1:29.5 | Alan Garber, the provost at Harvard published in the New York Times, where you were the first, |
1:35.3 | I would say, serious people to put in a major public venue, the economic concerns about what we do |
1:42.1 | about coronavirus on a par with the public health concerns or in relation |
1:45.8 | to the public health concerns. Describe to me, if you will, your current thinking on that |
1:50.9 | very challenging question. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I think there were a lot of people who |
1:56.2 | were recognizing the size of the economic cost that we were going to bear. |
2:01.6 | I think what was distinctive about our op-ed was a very specific proposal about how to craft a middle ground, |
2:10.6 | where we get out of this trap where we either have to kill the economy or kill lives. |
2:16.6 | So if I can, let me just try and explain the basics of the challenge here. |
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