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Shameless Media

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🗓️ 12 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Hello hello!! Coming up on today’s show: On her wedding day, Selena Gomez was photographed holding what appears to be a vape. This reignited a social media frenzy that’s been going on among stan circles for years now; what happened to Selena’s friendship with the woman who gave her an organ? Also, if you are the recipient of a loved one’s organ, do you owe them a certain kind of lifestyle? It’s a moral conundrum we’d like to unpack, and it’s not exactly simple. Few things rarely are!! This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Airbnb. On today’s show, Mich recommended Sum: Tales from the Afterlives by David Eagleman. Zara recommended Shonda Rhimes on Call Her Daddy. Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). Shameless Podcast is produced by Annabelle Lee and Eilish Gilligan, executive-produced by Lucy Hunt and audio-edited by Eilish Gilligan. Our social media team consists of Naima Fatema, Emily Li and Eilish Gilligan, and our partnerships manager is Cindy Luu. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This episode of Shameless Media.
0:07.7	This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Airbnb.
0:41.4	Music Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff.
0:45.5	You're joined, as always, by Melbourne writers, Michelle Andrews and Zara McDonald.
0:48.5	Hello, Zazzie McDonald and hello, producer, Ilish Gilligan.
0:49.0	Hello.
0:50.3	Hi, Gil, hi Mish.
0:55.2	Coming up on today's show, on her wedding day, Selena Gomez was photographed holding what appears to be a vape. This reignited a social media frenzy that's been going on
0:59.6	among Stan circles for years now. What happened to Selena's friendship with the woman who gave
1:04.3	her an organ, Francie a razor? Also, to ask a more deep, existential, ethical question, if you
1:09.9	are the recipient of a loved one's organ, do you owe them a certain kind of lifestyle? That is the moral conundrum and the debate that's raging on the internet this week. And it's not simple, but we're going to try and wade through it. We're going to try. First, Michelle, how are you? I'm good. I have a very highbrow wreck. Go, girl. Because, and I think we break
1:31.0	the fourth wall with the listeners again here, I see a Monday episode as a slightly higher brow,
1:36.9	smart stuff, ep, correct? Great way to manage their expectations, but yes.
1:41.2	We typically go deeper, and we're more analytical and more thoughtful on the
1:45.0	Monday episode. And then a Thursday episode, that's where like the dumb stuff really comes to the
1:49.7	four. Sure, yes. Stay with me. So this is my smart stuff wreck for the week. Oh, hit us.
1:54.7	Okay. I am reading a book. It is called Some Tales from the Afterlives. It's by David Eagleman.
2:00.5	This is one of the biggest books
2:02.1	of the late Nauties. Like, I think it was 2008, 2009. I need to credit a Shamemore listener.
2:09.9	I should have had her name up. Courtney. I remember off the top of my head. Courtney. Courtney is one
2:14.1	of our paying subscribers. She sent us a beautiful email which included a snippet from
2:20.2	this book, Gill. And the snippet was so gorgeous. I was like, oh my God, I need to read this book some.
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