I want to tell you about a remarkable new podcast I can't get enough of. What happens when

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You'll hear David talk to you, comedian Tignitaro, about her complex passion for plant-based

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Hi there. You are listening to The Lazy Genius Podcast. I'm Kendra Adachi. This podcast is not about hacking the system to find more time or hacking your energy to get more done. Husseling to be the best or to make the most

out of every opportunity is exhausting and unsustainable. So here we do things differently. On this show,

we value contentment, compassion, and living in your season. We favor small steps over big systems. Here we are lazy geniuses,

being a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. And I'm so glad

you're here. Today we have a little something extra for you. January has begun and you might have a

complicated relationship with the fresh starts and resolutions and all of the

reflections that this month naturally brings. I've obviously talked about January energy

on both the podcast and in my newsletter over the years. But today I wanted to talk to an expert

in this area, someone who cares about time management and habits, but still in a human way, much like I do.

So in this bonus episode, I talk to Gretchen Rubin.

Gretchen is a relentlessly curious writer and thinker on the topics of happiness, habits,

and human nature.

You might have read her book The Four Tendencies where she shares a framework

for human motivation. We talk about that in this episode. Or the Happiness Project where she

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