A new world order is underway. Will we survive it?
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Keir Starmer has pledged British boots on the ground to keep whatever peace Trump and Putin carve up between them over Ukraine. The consequences are staggering and disturbing, as the Matts discover during the course of a tightly argued podcast. Meanwhile, JD Vance openly humiliates European leaders and sends the clearest signal yet that America First is a slogan representing international menace and opportunism and national selfishness. How can divided and US-dependent European nations hope to defend itself in a world where the US is no longer there to pay the bill? Where does Europe fit into a world of strongman spheres?
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| 1:01.0 | brought to you by the subscribers of the new European. And it's a big day today. I quite often say, |
| 1:06.7 | wow, it's been a big week. But it really is. This is, yeah, I mean, on a scale of one to ten, I think this is somewhere near 17. I mean, potentially. There's so, it's been a big week. But it really is. This is, yeah, I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10, I think this is somewhere near 17, potentially. |
| 1:14.0 | There's so much just saying, I wonder if we kind of unravel it starting from an entry point. |
| 1:19.6 | And one entry point is fair plate of Kirstama. |
| 1:23.5 | You know, he's actually stepped up to the plate on offering the use of troops on the ground in Ukraine. |
| 1:30.3 | And we can go on and talk about whether or not that's possible and how wise it is. |
| 1:34.3 | But it was unusually audacious for someone with... |
| 1:37.3 | Well, I want to present a potential alternative view on that. |
| 1:40.8 | But we'll get into that. |
| 1:42.0 | But here's a blast of Kirstama talking. |
| 1:44.1 | This was in a piece overnight in the Daily Telegraph and here's him on that. But we'll get into that. But here's a blast of Kirstama talking. This was in a piece |
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