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The Daily

A New Way to Solve a Murder, Part 2: The Future of Genetic Privacy

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The police identified a suspect in a double murder after combing through DNA profiles on a website designed to connect family members. We look at what his trial will tell us about the future of genetic genealogy in solving crimes. Guests: Heather Murphy, a New York Times reporter, spoke with CeCe Moore, a genetic genealogist, and Curtis Rogers, a creator of the genealogy website GEDMatch. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: The case of William Earl Talbott II, who is accused of killing a Canadian couple in Washington State 32 years ago, could result in legal precedents involving the use of genetic genealogy techniques by law enforcement.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bovoro.

0:02.3

This is the Daily.

0:03.8

This is really too good for just my little Roger Surnin group.

0:09.3

Let's start another website and share this with other people.

0:12.8

We know this suspect, kidnapper,

0:15.4

but we don't know who she is.

0:17.1

Could we, in fact, identify somebody who had no clue who she was

0:21.5

when all we really would have is her DNA?

0:23.5

My concerns were that there could be a violation of privacy.

0:26.6

Police's case basically laid the groundwork for where everything's going now.

0:30.7

It's like when they first discovered that fingerprints could be used.

0:34.0

We've now started a whole new way of finding people.

0:40.0

Today, police identified a suspected double murderer

0:45.5

after combing through DNA profiles on a website designed to connect family members.

0:52.2

What his trial will tell us about the future of genetic genealogy in solving crimes?

0:59.4

It's Friday, June 7th.

1:06.4

So Heather Murphy, you've been covering a story for the times.

1:09.6

We left off with Kurt Rogers, who just seen that the site he had built,

1:14.2

Gedmatch, this database of DNA profiles that people are mostly using to connect with their relatives,

1:20.5

was used to crack the case of the Golden State Killer.

1:23.2

Yeah.

1:24.1

Kurt then decided to change Gedmatch's user agreement

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