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A New Queer-Affirming Book & Its Fallout (with The New Evangelicals) (#254)

Religion on the Mind

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker of The New Evangelicals joins Dan for a dual-feed special episode to discuss the upcoming book by Richard B. Hays, a respected New Testament scholar (Duke), and his son Christopher (Fuller), titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' They explore the potential impact of the book and the various reactions it has received. They also discuss the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and the need for an apology. They consider the strategic implications of the book and its potential to shift the conversation in white Evangelical spaces. They highlight the importance of listening to the voices of queer Christian scholars and the potential for the book to provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. Also, they explore the idea of holding contradictory views and the importance of integration and growth, including a little bit of therapy-adjacent ideas about Tim and his dad. https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/ **Watch this episode on YouTube** https://youtu.be/bEdcKuNfHg8 Richard Hays’ Book “The Widening of God’s Mercy”: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300273427/the-widening-of-gods-mercy/ ____________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:22.4

Sweet. All right. Well, Dan Koch, good to see you again. You and I have done quite a few

0:27.4

podcast crossovers in the past, and we've hung out a few times at Theology Beer Camp,

0:32.7

which we're going back to you again in October. I'm super pumped for that. Great to be with you

0:37.3

on both of our

0:38.5

podcast. So welcome. Yeah, thanks. This is airing on both the new evangelicals and the you have permission.

0:44.4

The midweek, the midweek slot on both shows. You are more diligent about those midweek

0:50.2

releases than I am, but we do them every other week, maybe three weeks a month. We'll have

0:55.3

something. And this felt like a good use of that. I totally agree. I mean, just for the sake of my

1:00.1

audience who might be a newer listener on my end, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself so

1:04.9

folks to know who you are? Yeah. So I'm Dan Koch. I am a licensed therapist, and I am a liberal Christian podcaster like yourself.

1:15.6

You might say progressive Christianity. I identify more with like old school mid-century liberal Protestantism, the Paul Tillick Schleiermarker side of things.

1:26.9

But yeah, I focus a lot on on psychology,

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