A New Hope from Hungary
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
The Matts assess Péter Magyar’s spectacular ousting of Viktor Orbán in Hungary and what it means for the fight against right-wing populism worldwide. It’s an encouraging moment but no time for complacency. In part two, they catch up with events in Iran and the deepening humiliation being visited upon Donald Trump as his strategy-free war continues. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 0:00.0 | What I thought was very impressive about Maggiya's campaign was that he went all in on corruption. |
| 0:08.0 | And corruption plays differently at different times in electoral cycles, but it plays very, very strongly when people are feeling the pinch. |
| 0:20.0 | A lot of listeners will hate me for saying this, |
| 0:22.5 | but I honestly think that it's an absolute prerequisite |
| 0:25.8 | that the European Union comes up with another construction |
| 0:28.8 | around freedom of movement. |
| 0:31.4 | That makes sense to nation states. |
| 0:35.9 | We've been watching Trump now for 11 years, so you kind of worry that you get desensitized. |
| 0:41.7 | And once in a while he just does something, and this for me was kind of the worst yet, |
| 0:46.8 | where you think this is truly, literally insane. |
| 0:54.7 | Hello and happy Thursday and welcome back, dear listeners. |
| 0:58.3 | Welcome back, one and all. |
| 0:59.8 | Now, I've been away in Cairo, which we'll maybe talk about a little bit. |
| 1:03.6 | Yeah, we should. |
| 1:04.3 | Anything happening? |
| 1:05.7 | No. |
| 1:06.4 | Dead quiet while he's been away. |
| 1:07.9 | Well, let's talk about Cairo. |
| 1:12.0 | It's, you know, I mean, it's a function of the fact of the times we're living through that, |
| 1:17.7 | you know, it's not like you've been away for a month, right? |
| 1:20.4 | No, I've been away for six days. |
| 1:22.2 | Exactly. |
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