Hey, folks, thanks for tuning in. This is Andy, and this is the Poor Proz Almanac.

Today we're joined by Chris from Kentucky Hartwood, an organization that works to protect and restore the integrity, stability, and beauty of Kentucky's native force and biotic communities through research, education, advocacy, and community engagement.

From 1992 to 2002, their all-volunteer group had remarkable and

unprecedented success in changing management on the Daniel Boone National Forest. Their early

work resulted in a 97% reduction in logging of the Daniel Boone National Forest, and they've

been busy ever since.

Chris and I have a really interesting conversation about forest protection,

in particular how when we start talking about forests in secluded areas,

how quickly we can make assumptions about what those forests look like and how a misunderstanding around what unique features these spaces have

can lead to ecological devastation.

I'm always excited and inspired to hear the different actions people are taking to protect their local ecology.

And this one I think everyone will enjoy.

And if you're in Kentucky, find out what you can do to partner with Kentucky Heartwood.

Chris, thanks for coming on. Tell us a little bit about Kentucky Heartwood and where this

organization came from. Hey, Andy, thanks so much for having us on, having me on, to talk about

Kentucky Heartwood. So Kentucky Heartwood started in the 90s during the time of

the timber wars. And this time, there was a huge debate about whether we should be logging

public lands or not, because logging on public lands is actually really financially inefficient,

and it causes a lot of habitat destruction and environmentalists at the time were noticing that

there was less and less

old growth and it was such a precious thing so why would you know the people's land be logged

that's around the time that we started and in our first 10 years we're all volunteers and we were

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