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It's 9 p.m. on Thursday, October 2nd here in New York City. It's 4 a.m. on Friday, October 3rd in Israel, as Jews in New York City and across the diaspora and in Israel are all coming out of Yom Kippur,

and I'm hoping everyone had a meaningful fast.

This year's Yom Kippur landed right on our production schedule, so we did not tape a Call Me Back episode.

This is a good opportunity to share with you the most recent episode of For Heaven's Sake,

an arc media podcast we produce with our partners at the Shalom Hartman Institute, Yossi Klein

Halevi and Danielle Hartman. I found their episode from Wednesday about President Trump's plan,

which we published just before Yom Kippur, to be extremely thoughtful and also hopeful.

I strongly recommend listening to their conversation and of course subscribing to this

Arc Media podcast. I hope you enjoyed as much as I did and please don't forget to follow

the link in the show notes and subscribe to For Heaven's Sake.

Hi, friends.

This is Daniel Hartman and Yossi Klein-Halevi from the Shalom Hartman Institute.

And this is our podcast for heaven's sake,

Israel at War, in collaboration with Hark Media. Today is day 725. And maybe you hear it in my voice.

There might be a little smile in my voice. While I'm always an optimist, it's a little easier for me to be an optimist today.

And it is the source of the optimism that we want to talk about today.

And we're calling today's podcast a new era.

With a question mark, all of Israel, and I think a large part of the world,

or at least we hope we think so often, that we're the center of the world.

As we listen to this remarkable press conference and the now 20-point peace plan,

Gaza peace plan, now the media is filled with discourse, analyzing each one of the points.

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