just go do something. Don't talk about doing something. Just go do it. Like, what's the worst that can happen doing something? It doesn't work. Uh-huh. But it might work. But it's so much better than just talking about doing something. Right. And, you know, whether it's, you know, old Teddy Roosevelt talking about the man in the arena and kind of like, it's like the person that just kind of goes and does something rather than just criticize or talk about it or you name it. It's like just go try.

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I have always looked at health care as something that is a right, not a privilege,

and I've seen many different sides of it from being Thai and Lowe and having dual citizenship

with working with organizations in Ghana, seeing how health care is approached in different countries

on top of all the issues that we have here in the United States. So I'm really excited to dive in

with Mark Newman today. You are founder's CEO at Nomi Health. So thank you first and foremost

for what you're trying to do and what you are doing to put some good energy into this area

that frustrates so many people. Yeah, it is literally the most broken market in the entire world.

It's U.S. healthcare on a standalone basis is the third largest country, if it was its own, like

from a GDP standpoint, if it was its own thing, right? It'd go Canada, or it'd go U.S., China, and then American health care, because it's like

$5.5 trillion before Germany.

And it's a walking disaster.

So thanks for having me.

I'm excited to jump in.

Yeah.

Let's talk about first how you went from international business and masters's in finance into healthcare as your passion

and your skill set. Yeah. I've been fortunate. When I was in college and graduating with that

degree, you know, 20 years ago, my co-founder and I started the company called Higher View,

which was all around video-based assessment, machine learning, and AI. And when

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