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It's Axel on Tap with David Axel Roth, Robert Gibbs, and Mike Murphy.

I think about just in the last few days and the former president put out saying this election was rigged.

Democracy is not a football. You don't throw it around. It's more like a, I don't know, antique

face. You can drop it and smash in a million different pieces. And that's what we're capable of

doing. If we don't stand up to meet the moment and push back.

There you have it. Triumphant Gavin Newsom after the votes, or at least enough of the votes were

counted in California to affirm the fact that he won a resounding victory and rejection of the

move to recall him Gibbs, big, big night, big night for him. It sounded a little bit to me like he

was auditioning for future presidential activities, but you guys are here to write to feel chippy

last night. Yeah, I think there's, we'll get into this. I think it not only restored him to

successfully continuing his term as governor of California, but I have no doubt we'll use this to

ketopult himself a bit more back on a national track, which maybe for a few months got off track,

if you will. In having to fight a recall that, as you said, he defeated quite handily. The

Republicans in California lasted longer than Evander Holyfield did this weekend at the Donald Trump

fight, but not a lot longer. Yeah. Well, with us today is not only an expert hack watcher,

if not hack herself, but also an expert on California recalls by Dint of a new podcast that

series that she's done on the last California or recall election, Dan Abash, co-anchor of state

of the Union on CNN, their chief political correspondent colleague of mine, Dana, good to see you.

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