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A new “cold war”?

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the idea of a US-China “cold war” — a notion that’s been around for a while, but has become super popular since the coronavirus has turned into a blame game between the world’s two leading powers. They discuss what it would mean for the countries to be in such a conflict, compare it to the actual Cold War, debate whether the term really applies to the US, and wrap up by talking about how or whether tensions between Washington and Beijing could successfully be dialed down. There are references to Blink-182, The Office, and thumb war. References: Alex wrote about how China is exploiting the coronavirus crisis to achieve its goals faster. Here’s Vice President Mike Pence’s China speech at the Hudson Institute. There really are a lot of stories — see here, here, and here — on the US-China “cold war.” Everything you wanted to know about the Thucydides trap. And here’s that Chinese rap video Jenn mentioned. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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IBM.com slash Watson X IBM let's create As long as the world has been dealing with China as a potential rising power, there's been concerns that the US and China could get wrapped up in a replication

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of what happened from most of the 20th century. That is a devastating Cold War that constantly

1:31.1

risked yet another world war and global

1:33.9

conflagration. Well guess what? People are now worrying that the

1:38.1

coronavirus and China's behavior during it and the US response has kicked off the beginning of that long dreaded new

1:45.6

Cold War. Today and worldly part of the Fox Media Podcast Network. We are going to talk

1:50.5

about the way the coronavirus has restructured US-China relations, whether or not we are actually

1:56.0

in a Cold War with China, what it would look like for the US and China to be a Cold War,

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and what the significance of rising hostilities between these two countries are.

2:04.0

I'm Zak Beach, I'm here as always with Jen Williams and Alex Ward.

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