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On Point | Podcast

A new approach to science rooted in Indigenous tradition

On Point | Podcast

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The National Science Foundation has funded its first ever research hub focused on Indigenous knowledge. This $30 million investment will fund projects from ancient clam-farming to mapping climate change on tribal lands.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is on point. I'm Megna Chacrobardi. If you walk along the beach on the Pacific Northwest

0:10.0

coast, you might not notice some very special things. They're called clam gardens and they've

0:15.6

been sitting along the shore for thousands of years.

0:19.2

Clam gardens are these really special intertidal spaces where for thousands of years indigenous

0:25.0

people moved rocks to the low tide line to terrace the beach just like you could terrace

0:30.2

a hill to grow more grapes. You can terrace a beach to increase the area for clams to live.

0:38.6

That's Marco Hatch. He's an associate professor at Western Washington University in Environmental

0:43.4

Science and a member of the Samish Indian Nation. He's also a clam garden expert.

0:50.0

Now clam gardens are an indigenous innovation that's essentially a rock wall along the shoreline.

0:56.4

These structures allow the rising tides to bring sediment over the rock wall to create

1:01.1

an ideal habitat for the clams. But then during low tide, it creates an exposed beach that's

1:06.7

ideal for harvesting. Hatch says clams grown in gardens are two to four times the size

1:13.5

of other clams and the gardens are 150% to 300% more productive than wild beaches.

1:20.7

Clam gardens are really fascinating ecologically because the very rocks that define a clam garden,

1:26.4

those basket ball sized rocks on the low tide line, creates this fascinating three-dimensional

1:32.7

structure. All of these rocks piled up with little hidey holes for other things to live

1:37.2

in them. Like big snails or limpids or kaitens or red rock crab or seaweed, which are all

1:43.1

also traditional foods. And so we often focus on the clam productivity, but that rock wall itself

1:48.8

creates this really complex environment that lots of other native species and traditional foods

1:54.5

also reside in. Clam gardens are ancient. Examples approximately 3,500 years old are known from

2:02.3

Washington state to coastal British Columbia, Canada and all the way up to Southeast Alaska.

2:08.0

But Hatch says many more have yet to be discovered. And that's because for thousands of years,

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