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Devil in the Desert

A Neon Sign For Crime

Devil in the Desert

ABC News

True Crime, News

4.6625 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

A neighbor who sees something odd outside her window leads investigators to their first clue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I had the absolute pleasure of speaking to Pamela Anderson.

0:04.2

All thanks to the Dove Self-Eesteem Project.

0:07.1

We speak about the impact Y2K has had on women's body confidence and how Pamela has regained control.

0:12.9

The Dove Self-Esteen project is an amazing initiative supported by science-backed methodology

0:17.8

to help us improve our relationship with our bodies.

0:20.8

To find more

0:21.4

body confidence-building exercises, go to dove.com forward slash Y2K. That's Y2K spelled W-H-Y-2K.

0:30.4

On October 1st, 2012, hours before Michael was kidnapped, one of his neighbors noticed something

0:37.4

was off.

0:39.7

The neighbor's house was located behind the house where Mary Barnes and Michael lived.

0:45.4

Around 2.30 that afternoon, she looked out her second floor window.

0:51.7

She told police what she saw.

0:54.6

A white truck with a big dent on its side.

0:58.3

It was in the rear alley of Michael's house, and she saw three men near the truck.

1:04.8

One of them was wearing a hard hat.

1:07.0

Maybe they were construction workers.

1:09.2

And she told police that she saw a ladder placed on the side of Michael's house.

1:14.6

So then they're standing there and you said something about they were moving the ladder up and down.

1:19.3

Yeah, it was like it was a lot of noise.

1:22.4

And I'm going, what happened?

1:23.3

But you asked me before, if I saw anybody go up the ladder, I saw no one go up the ladder.

1:27.5

I was peeking back and forth, but I don't remember, you know.

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