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Shedunnit

A Mysterious Glossary

Shedunnit

Caroline Crampton

Arts, Books

4.9 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Do you know your ack emma from your pip emma? Would you wear the cat's pyjamas? Are you, in fact, a goop? Helen Zaltzman joins me to delve into some baffling language from golden age detective fiction. Thanks to my guest for this episode, Helen Zaltzman. She is the host of The Allusionist, a marvellous podcast about language, which I strongly recommend that you support on Patreon now. A bonus episode with 20 minutes of extra material will be published later this month just for Shedunnit Book Club members. If you'd like to hear it, join now at shedunnitbookclub.com/join. There are no major plot spoilers in this episode. Books referenced: — A Murder is Announced by Agatha Christie — "The Tuesday Night Club" by Agatha Christie from The Tuesday Club Murders aka The Thirteen Problems — The Franchise Affair by Josephine Tey — Checkmate to Murder by ECR Lorac — The Ha-Ha Case by JJ Connington — The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett To be the first to know about future developments with the podcast, sign up for the newsletter at shedunnitshow.com/newsletter. Find a full transcript of this episode at shedunnitshow.com/amysteriousglossarytranscript. The podcast is on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram as @ShedunnitShow, and you can find it in all major podcast apps. Make sure you’re subscribed so you don’t miss the next episode. Click here to do that now in your app of choice. Links to Blackwell’s are affiliate links, meaning that the podcast receives a small commission when you purchase a book there (the price remains the same for you). Blackwell’s is a UK independent bookselling chain that ships internationally at no extra charge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to She Done It. I'm Caroline Cremton.

0:08.8

One of the things I love about reading detective fiction from the 1920s and 1930s, what we call

0:14.8

the Golden Age, is what I learn about that time period just from its who done it. There's

0:21.2

so much social and cultural history contained in the pages of even the most seemingly superficial

0:26.9

of stories. Most of the time, this process of imbibing the contemporary context is entirely

0:34.6

enjoyable. But occasionally, a word or phrase comes along that I've never seen before, and

0:42.1

I'm reminded a new that almost a century separates the publication of these books and

0:47.7

me deciding to read them. These are expressions that would clearly have made complete sense

0:53.5

to the 1920s reader, but are now completely opaque to us in the 2020s. And so, I decided

1:01.9

to make a glossary of sorts, in an attempt to gain a better understanding of what Golden

1:06.7

Age detective novelists were really trying to say in their stories. And to do this properly,

1:13.5

I've called in an expert. Long time friend of She Done It, Helen Zoltzmann. Helen is

1:20.0

the host of the illusionist, a marvellous podcast about language, and generally an enthusiast

1:26.0

of all kinds of linguistic curiosities. All of the words and phrases that you're going

1:31.6

to hear us discussing today are ones that I've either encountered during my own reading,

1:37.1

or they've been sent in by members of the podcast's paid membership community, The She Done It

1:41.8

Book Club. If you'd like to be in on creating future episodes like this, you can become a member

1:48.4

now by heading to She Done It Book Club.com's last join. It's also a bonus episode with about

1:54.7

half an hour of extra word discussion that will be published later this month just for

1:59.5

members to enjoy. So if you'd like to hear more of our conversation, you can do that once

2:04.4

you've joined the club too. Now let's get into the glossary.

2:21.0

So the first word of phrase that we're going to try and define for you today is this pair

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