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Today, Explained

A Mueller walks into a Barr

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2019

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

This week in Mueller report aftermath: An incendiary letter leaks; the attorney general spars with senators and then cancels a date with the House. Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick reflects on what might be a constitutional crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Dolly Lithwick, host of the Amicus podcast from Slate, the notion of our harmonious politics

0:09.5

felt like it was pierced on Tuesday when a letter special counsel Mueller wrote to Attorney

0:14.8

General Bill Barr leaked.

0:17.1

What did it say?

0:18.1

Yeah, this was a letter that a slightly irate Bob Mueller wrote on March 27 after the

0:23.8

initial summary came out of the Mueller report that was the one in which pretty perfunct

0:30.9

tourally, Attorney General Barr said no collusion and no obstruction.

0:37.1

And it seems that Mueller was a little bit upset at the way that had been characterized

0:42.1

and he pushed back a little bit and essentially said what you have put out there has created

0:49.6

quote public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation.

0:54.1

This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the department appointed the special

0:58.2

counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.

1:03.1

He went on to say, I created summaries, use our summaries and don't use your own and

1:08.9

we know that Mueller doesn't talk this way.

1:11.2

And so I think it's fair to say he was legitimately quite frustrated with the rollout and with

1:16.5

the initial capturing of the narrative.

1:19.9

And so really when Barr sat down to testify, he was already wrong footed by the leaking

1:25.8

of something that essentially said Mueller thinks you kind of blew it on the rollout.

1:31.6

Is it any accident this letter leaked Tuesday night just before Barr was set to testify in

1:36.7

front of Congress on Wednesday morning?

1:38.5

I don't think so.

1:39.5

I think it's been plain that there has been a growing divergence between the story Mueller

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