In a healthy marriage, there are no secrets, according to Dennis Rainey.

Isolation is the ploy of the enemy.

If he can get a couple isolated from each other, he can convince you of anything.

He can convince your husband of anything.

You really have to guard your marriage against isolation.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth, author of Lies

Women Believe, for Tuesday, January 3, 2017. Every marriage has a tendency to drift apart unless we make a concerted effort to stay connected.

Dennis and Barbara Rainey talked yesterday about that.

Dennis and Barbara founded the ministry Family Life, and Dennis serves as president.

The Rainies were in town to talk about

Barbara's newest book, Letters to My Daughters on the Art of Being a Wife. While they were in town,

we put Dennis on the spot and had him join Barbara. If you missed part one of the conversation,

you can hear it at revive our hearts.com. Let's pick back up,

and if you have younger children with you, keep in mind the conversation is about physical intimacy

in marriage. Dennis, you've said to Barbara, she reports this at least in her book,

thanks for making me more effective at work. What does that mean it hasn't relate to this area?

Well, if you want to read, if you want to read a book that was written in the early 70s, it was originally called sexual suicide by Dr. George Gilder, a Harvard sociologist.

And the book was retitled called Men and Marriage and explains how men without women, as in marriage, are barbarians.

Men have been given a drive that is placed, I believe, by God to propagate the human race and also to pursue the woman.

If one or both of you didn't have a desire to be with each other, then when would the pursuit start?

And how would the pursuit continue four decades, five decades, into the relationship?

And he just talks about how men are affirmed by their wives in marriage through the act of coming together

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