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🗓️ 8 August 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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0:00.0 | democracy is a check against tyranny. It's a check against the unrestrained power of |
0:08.2 | people who have more money than most, more power than most, and it is rare in the history |
0:13.4 | of humankind. And we are naive if we think that we don't have to fight for it every single |
0:19.1 | day. |
0:20.1 | Hello, welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes. |
0:33.6 | If you're hearing the sound of my voice and you probably have heard the news that Donald |
0:36.8 | Trump was indicted by the special counsel Jack Smith and the US government for his attempts |
0:42.1 | to subvert and overturn the 2020 election. Now, one of the most interesting parts of the |
0:48.0 | indictment is count four, which is conspiracy to deprive rights. And it comes from a part |
0:53.6 | of the US criminal code that is the product of legislation passed in 1870 if not mistaken |
1:01.2 | during reconstruction and attempt by the federal government to crack down on and criminalize |
1:07.6 | the persistent efforts by white southerners to deprive the rights of the newly freed black |
1:12.3 | citizens of the south. And there's something kind of haunting and apt about this charge |
1:19.6 | showing up in the year 2023 for efforts taken in 2020 by Donald Trump, who, you know, quite |
1:25.2 | famously whipped up a frenzied mob directed at two black women who are election workers |
1:31.1 | or reframing shay Moss in Fulton County, Atlanta, who talked about the suspicious votes in places |
1:36.8 | like Philadelphia, where nothing good happens and Milwaukee and Detroit, who almost explicitly, |
1:42.9 | I mean, just on the border of explicitly, the plot was to find a way to throw out the votes |
1:48.3 | of urban centers and black voters in those urban centers in swing states, so as to produce |
1:54.0 | statewide outcomes in which you want that was the plan. And failing that to just simply overturn |
1:59.2 | the election by fiat through a scheme of fake electors and Mike Pence and ultimately House |
2:06.3 | representatives or state legislators, all of which to say the assault on democracy in the year |
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