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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

“A Moral Moment in America” with Sen. Raphael Warnock

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 8 August 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

“We are naive if we think that we don't have to fight for [our democracy] every single day,” says Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-GA), in this week’s WITHpod. Given how imperiled our democracy is, we thought it would be good to talk about the nation’s democratic health with someone who has navigated some of the most difficult terrain in American politics. Sen. Warnock, who defeated Republican challenger Herschel Walker, is the author of numerous books, including his latest titled, “A Way Out of No Way: A Memoir of Truth, Transformation, and the New American Story.” He’s also the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta. He joins WITHpod to discuss his concerns about the state of our democracy, his efforts to renew the fight for voting rights, the most surprising part of being a U.S. senator, what he thinks the worst part of his job is and more.

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democracy is a check against tyranny. It's a check against the unrestrained power of

0:08.2

people who have more money than most, more power than most, and it is rare in the history

0:13.4

of humankind. And we are naive if we think that we don't have to fight for it every single

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day.

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Hello, welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:33.6

If you're hearing the sound of my voice and you probably have heard the news that Donald

0:36.8

Trump was indicted by the special counsel Jack Smith and the US government for his attempts

0:42.1

to subvert and overturn the 2020 election. Now, one of the most interesting parts of the

0:48.0

indictment is count four, which is conspiracy to deprive rights. And it comes from a part

0:53.6

of the US criminal code that is the product of legislation passed in 1870 if not mistaken

1:01.2

during reconstruction and attempt by the federal government to crack down on and criminalize

1:07.6

the persistent efforts by white southerners to deprive the rights of the newly freed black

1:12.3

citizens of the south. And there's something kind of haunting and apt about this charge

1:19.6

showing up in the year 2023 for efforts taken in 2020 by Donald Trump, who, you know, quite

1:25.2

famously whipped up a frenzied mob directed at two black women who are election workers

1:31.1

or reframing shay Moss in Fulton County, Atlanta, who talked about the suspicious votes in places

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like Philadelphia, where nothing good happens and Milwaukee and Detroit, who almost explicitly,

1:42.9

I mean, just on the border of explicitly, the plot was to find a way to throw out the votes

1:48.3

of urban centers and black voters in those urban centers in swing states, so as to produce

1:54.0

statewide outcomes in which you want that was the plan. And failing that to just simply overturn

1:59.2

the election by fiat through a scheme of fake electors and Mike Pence and ultimately House

2:06.3

representatives or state legislators, all of which to say the assault on democracy in the year

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