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Deadline: White House

“A moment that will test democracy”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on testing the independence of federal watchdogs, Democrats searching for ways to counter Trump 2.0, and a moving new memoir from Molly Jong-Fast. Joined by: Miles Taylor, Amanda Carpenter, Barbara McQuade, Michael Bender, Joe Walsh, Keisha Lance Bottoms, and Molly Jong-Fast.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York.

0:10.3

Quote, we are in a moment that will test democracy for the ages.

0:14.3

Those words are from the man who, without even identifying himself at first,

0:19.3

dropped a political bombshell in the form of a warning to the country about Donald Trump that resonates to this hour on this day.

0:29.1

We are talking about the former Trump official who, for a time, was known as anonymous, Miles Taylor.

0:34.5

Today he is filing a complaint asking the inspectors general of the Department

0:38.7

of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice to investigate the legality of the executive

0:44.3

order levied against him. Back in April, Donald Trump signed an executive order inside the

0:50.2

Oval Office targeting Taylor and former Trump cybersecurity chief Chris Krebs.

0:55.8

They committed the sin in Donald Trump's eyes of saying that the 2020 election was the, quote,

1:02.7

most secure in history. The executive order revoked their security clearances and tasked officials

1:08.7

with investigating both Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs.

1:13.1

According to Miles Taylor, the complaints are a test case to see whether independent watchdogs,

1:19.0

like the IG's offices, are still actually independent, or that they too have been taken off

1:25.7

the playing field and co-opted and corrupted by Donald J. Trump,

1:29.9

something Taylor has now been warning about publicly at pretty high cost to himself for seven years.

1:37.6

When he first wrote an op-ed in the New York Times as anonymous, Taylor said Trump was amoral,

1:43.9

an impetuous, adversarial, petty,

1:46.3

and anti-democratic. His comments that Trump cabinet members had discussed invoking the

1:52.7

25th Amendment had the entire country, or at least yours truly, Googling exactly how the 25th

1:58.3

amendment would work. It was without a doubt, a political earthquake.

2:03.9

Watch.

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