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And now for a moment of clarity.

Everyone needs to recognize this is a very, very dangerous thing that Donald Trump is doing,

and it is more dangerous if we don't take it seriously. I will add,

hey, Donald Trump release the Epstein files.

Well, yes, exactly. And to pick up on the support, a point that Simone made at the beginning

when she said that this is all very unsettling, that she's unsettled by this, I'm real settled,

because this is all crazy as hell. And everybody is walking around, Mark, as you well know,

because you and I've had this conversation scratching here and go, what do we do?

What do we do next?

It's what you're doing right now.

It's what others like you in this space are trying to do to recreate an opportunity for us

to have a conversation and expose, like you just said at the end there, give us the documents,

tell us what the truth is here.

So with this sort of seemingly conflict

between trying to expose the fact that Donald Trump keeps lying to people

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