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The Michael Steele Podcast

A Moment Of Clarity: The Epstein Files: What the Evidence Actually Says About Trump

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

History, News, Government, Politics

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

Why is the full truth about the Epstein files still so elusive? Michael Steele cuts through the noise to examine the documented ties, the New York Times investigations, and the web of high-society connections that the public was never supposed to see.

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0:00.0

And now for a moment of clarity.

0:06.1

I think these photos actually really corroborate that New York Times reporting because they show there's evidence of these types of events.

0:14.7

Yeah.

0:15.3

Andrew, I want to look at the other player in this who seemingly is a central character but refuses to acknowledge

0:25.6

any role or any time or place or space in which he had a relationship with Epstein and that's

0:32.3

the president himself who continues to rely on the lie that well okay if okay, if I barely knew the guy, I didn't like him,

0:41.6

and we didn't spend that much time together, and we stopped having a relationship, I don't know,

0:47.1

back in the early 2000s. The New York Times, however, talks about Don's best friend.

0:55.0

And over the years, noting over the years, Mr. Epstein or his partner, Galane Maxwell,

1:00.0

introduced at least six women who have accused them of grooming or abuse to Mr. Trump,

1:05.0

according to interviews, court, testimony, and other records.

1:08.0

One was a minor at the time. None have accused Mr. Trump himself of inappropriate behavior.

1:13.6

And it's still, if you still pop up in these stories and you're still, and even your chief of staff is noting you're in the documents,

1:23.6

how do you continue to persist that somehow everybody's lying about this relationship that you claim never existed but you?

1:33.1

Well, I'm tempted to say about that that this sort of lie through any particular problem is not new.

1:43.5

Catch Michael Steele on the weeknight,

1:45.8

Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern on MS Now.

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