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The Michael Steele Podcast

A Moment Of Clarity: The Epstein Files: A Looming Shadow Over Trump

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele examines the intricacies of the surfacing Epstein files. He discusses President Trump's apparent reluctance for their release, and how the files' contents might be impacting Trump's narrative, his hold on supporters, and the potential repercussions for the Republican Party.

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0:00.0

And now for a moment of clarity.

0:06.2

This is the first time that Donald Trump has came full circle and backed up off the lies that he sold his people.

0:15.6

And I think that's why it's backfired.

0:17.5

I think it was to drop it because of what's in the files. I'll just put it right

0:23.0

there. There it is. That's why he wants to drop it because what's in the files. He's seen the

0:29.5

files. So is Elon Musk. Elon Musk has tweeted about what's in the files. Allegedly. Okay.

0:36.5

We can play that game. But David, here's the storyline. Here's the storyline.

0:43.0

And it's a good one. To your point about the chickens coming home to Roos Cornell. The reality for Donald

0:48.4

Trump right now is that he can no longer control the scenarios. He can no longer control the language that's being put out on the street.

0:57.2

And Peter Wainer has a great piece in Atlantic in the Atlantic entitled.

1:01.3

Trump discovers MAGA has no off switch.

1:04.5

And his reality that's come home to roost,

1:07.6

one of those big chickens that has come home to roost,

1:13.1

is one that he created.

1:14.7

He stoked.

1:15.9

He fed it.

1:19.3

And now it's coming home and it ain't paying attention to him.

1:25.4

And in fact, it's opened up a big can of whoop behind because it's 7 o'clock,

1:28.3

whoop behind on Donald Trump.

1:35.1

And so the question now becomes, as he's floundering and as he's moving through this process,

1:40.6

trying to throw everything he can, he's given spaghetti a whole new name on the wall, right?

1:42.0

Because none of it's sticking.

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