And now for a moment of clarity. The following is from MS NBC's The Weekend, which aired June 2nd.

If he wins a second term,

I promise you he's going to go even further.

So all of this is to say,

who sits in the White House matters.

It matters for, it matters for the people of America and for people around the world.

The problem is that a lot of Americans don't think it matters to the extent that they see very little difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

They look back on Trump's four years fondly as the polling shows and they look at the success of this

administration is somehow bad or harmful. So not only is there a communication

narrative that that's out of whack. I think, and this was the point I was making

to Quentin at the end, I think it really is going to be the voices of people who look like the communities they're trying to

attract and remind of the differences between four years of Donald Trump versus the last four years of Joe Biden, having black men talking

to the community, having Hispanic men talking to the community, having, I really think Jamal Bowman put it out there the right way

is yeah you're not going to have Joe Biden Simone on the street every day. We know that that's

not practical but there are ways in which that campaign can be present

in the neighborhoods walking the block. I mean, honestly... In a very honest way. But here's the final point on it, I think.

Maybe we see that effort, start to show up in some of the polling.

Because again, I'm not looking at national polling right now.

I want to see the polling in those spaces where they are doing this work to see if

they're starting to move the needle not even if they have an advantage you need a

greater advantage going into this November election because the lie is already in motion people.

The lie is already in motion.

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