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The Michael Steele Podcast

A Moment of Clarity: Project 2025's Plan to Fire 50,000 Federal Employees

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2024

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

And now, for a moment of clarity...

Michael Steele speaks with Heritage Foundation President, Kevin Roberts, about Project 2025's plan to fire up to 50,000 federal government workers.

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0:00.0

And now for a moment of clarity.

0:07.0

The following is from MS NBC's The Weekend, which aired Saturday, June 22nd.

0:13.0

As a lifelong follower and participant in heritage

0:18.0

having spoken at various times there

0:20.0

in the roles that I've played in the party,

0:22.0

I see this as a dramatic shift away

0:24.8

from those Reagan next principles when you have someone like Trump who's

0:29.3

advocated some of the things he has. But before we get to that, I want to get to the nub of this because

0:35.1

you can't really do anything until you remove what has been identified as the problem and that

0:41.2

is 50,000 federal employees.

0:44.0

Axios quoted noted,

0:47.0

noted, quote, the massive head hunting quest

0:50.0

aims to recruit 20,000 people to serve in the next administration as a down payment on 4,000 presidential

0:56.0

appointments plus potential replacements for as many as 50,000 federal workers who are

1:00.6

policy adjacent as trumpers put it policy adjacent to what I mean you're talking

1:05.8

about people who've been in federal government my dad it was a federal government

1:09.1

employee so I would be really appalled thinking that he could be on someone's chopping

1:13.4

block because they think he is part of some deep state effort.

1:20.3

Talk to us about what that looks like if heritage is calling for removing 50,000

1:27.4

federal employees who are you replacing them with the number and where do they come from I mean even if it's not 50,000, if it's 10,000, if it's 2,000, where are they coming from and who are you

1:38.7

replacing them?

1:39.7

Because I suspect a lot of those people you're talking about have been in the federal service for a long time and have served not just Republican administrations but also Democratic administrations, etc.

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