And now for a moment of clarity.

Colonel, I'm not willing to play the semantic game.

I'm not willing to go down this road and pretend that this is something that it is not.

We are not at war with the country of Venezuela, nor have we been at war with the country of Venezuela or its people.

This government is rogue.

It is behaving contra-constitutional as well as federal law.

So this idea that this administration or or its ilk, want us to parse between war crimes and murder, to me, is bull.

The fact is Donald Trump and Pete Hexseth have the blood of two innocent individuals who were survivors of an attack by this government.

And they then gave an order to make sure that they were, in fact, killed two.

I don't know how else to read this. I don't know how else to see it.

I think the American people need to be very clear-eyed about what this is.

Donald Trump and Pete Hexeth murdered two individuals on the direct order of Pete Hexeth and or Donald Trump.

That's how the chain of command works in our government.

If that's not the case, Colonel, have you seen or heard the name of the individual who took it upon themselves to act contra the order of the president or the secretary

of defense who now claim that no such order was given. Oh, but yet, his spokeswoman

in the White House says, well, yeah, there was an order to kill these two individuals. So help me

understand how we should be looking at this if what I just said don't make sense.

Thank you, Michael.

Well, even if there was an order from Secretary Heggseth to kill the two survivors who are considered or to combat that are shipwrecked, that are defenseless civilians, because we are not at war, as you and Simone pointed out.

But even if there was an order to kill them, Admiral Bradley, the commander then of

J-Socke, the Special Operations Unit, conducting these strikes, should have disobeyed it. He was under

a legal duty to disobey a clearly unlawful order. And as Secretary Kendall said, this is about the

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