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🗓️ 9 July 2025
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0:00.0 | And now for a moment of clarity. |
0:05.0 | Michael, if your boss comes out and gives you that type of no confidence vote, what's the message? |
0:14.0 | Oh, you know, I think what you'll see is folks double down on kissing the ring. |
0:23.6 | I think they go back and they figure out where they went wrong with Trump, where they overstepped |
0:31.6 | or didn't do what he thought they should do. |
0:35.6 | And the other side of, I don't know how much I want to make of any of those |
0:39.2 | interactions with Trump. Because I think at the end of the day, the politics that's driving |
0:46.2 | this is he's at the center. All things flow into him. Everything flows out from him. And so |
0:52.8 | everybody's going to get pushed around that table just a little bit. |
0:56.5 | But outside of the ring is where it gets interesting. |
1:00.9 | Outside the walls of the White House and the West Wing, folks on the ground and on the street |
1:06.7 | are getting a different vibe from all of this. |
1:09.4 | So, Claire, I want to get your thoughts on what Playbook is talking about right now is this sort of rift between MAGA and Trump, noting in MAGA world, anger over last night's U-turn is already starting to flow. |
1:21.6 | Trump's repeated pledges to end America's involvement in overseas wars were a big part of his appeal to the MAGA base |
1:27.9 | and so his decision to start re-arming Ukraine |
1:31.3 | is not landing well. |
1:33.2 | You can expect MAGA anger to swell. |
1:36.6 | I, you know, my view of Eclare is, |
1:39.3 | so what? What's you going to do? |
1:41.5 | You're going to walk away from Trump? |
1:43.2 | Are you just going to do like most MAGA folks do and just, you know, cry some crocodile tears. But then at the critical moment, stake attached to his hip. |
1:54.0 | Catch Michael Steele on the weeknight, Monday through Friday at 7 Eastern on MSNBC. |
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