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The Michael Steele Podcast

A Moment of Clarity: "Before you embarrass yourself, come prepared" Michael's advises Trump before Zohran Mamdani meeting

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

Michael discusses President Trump's meeting with NY mayor-elect, Zohran Mamdani.

11.20.25 - MSNBC

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0:00.0

And now for a moment of clarity.

0:06.2

You know, it was notable.

0:07.9

I listened to the White House press briefing today, obviously.

0:11.0

I got a lot of thoughts about it.

0:12.3

But in the briefing today, Caroline Levitt was asked if this meeting with the mayor-elect would be open press.

0:18.1

Would they bring the cameras in?

0:19.1

And the reporter said, you usually bring the cameras in, but do you have any guidance? And she said, I have no new news. If we do bring the cameras in, maybe we'll just let you in. And she was speaking to the New York Post. So I think that Donald Trump has actually met his match in the mayor elect. And I'll be looking to see what comes out of this meeting tomorrow. But again, the mayor

0:39.3

seems to know what he is doing. He is forced the hand and now he'll be in the Oval Office. Do you agree,

0:43.8

Michael? Yeah. No, I do. I look. I think it's a bold move to make. I mean, you go into the,

0:52.0

into the Lions Den, if you will, and just kind of, yeah, you know, see what you can, see what you can lay on the table there.

0:59.4

And I think the mayor elect will make a very clear point.

1:02.9

But here's the thing for me.

1:04.4

So, Ms. Leavitt and the White House chief of staff and others maybe want to sit down with the President before the meeting

1:11.3

and explain to him the difference between communism and social being a social Democrat.

1:17.3

They're not the same.

1:19.3

The mayor elect is not a communist.

1:21.1

He is not advocating for the state or the government to take private property from citizens.

1:27.1

That's communism, Mr. President.

1:29.2

Social Democrats, on the other hand, actually advocate for opening up the government in a way

1:36.7

that it serves the people more directly. And in fact, supports the idea of private property ownership as opposed to anything else.

1:47.3

So I think it'll be important to understand what the terms are before you start throwing stuff around and embarrass yourself.

1:52.4

Because I really wouldn't want this 30-something year old to show up your 78 year old behind, 79 year old behind too badly.

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