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Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-One-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures about the most fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives.

I'm your host, Harry Littman.

Hey, hey, hey, everyone, it's our latest Molly Harry mashup where Molly Jong Fast throws legal questions my way,

and I return fire with political questions.

Let me just say, always a pleasure to be with the celebrated Molly John Fast,

who has added since the last time we're here

to her long, famous resume, A New Book, How to Lose Your Mother, which came out last month,

Musselton. New York Times bestseller, baby. Okay, and speaking to the New York Times,

man, you had a great article in there that

was sort of part memoir and part political analysis about the Stephen Colbert firing. And let me start

with that. You wrote there that, you know, canceling Colbert isn't funny.

But you noted how the point of authoritarian coercion is it's a motivator.

And man, we're seeing it sort of everywhere where he's been, has Trump in this first eighth of his new term,

pretty damn successful in getting people, including broad sectors of civil society, to really tow the line or approach the line. Why is he so much

more effective at doing that and sort of cowling the speech of big sectors of the country than he was last

time around, do you think?

It was actually a really smart piece in the Times today, an opinion piece from the former

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