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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

A Miracle Plan

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Education, Business, Investing, How To

4.5 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Don and Tom tackle Americans’ retirement fears, highlighting a survey where one in five say it would take “a miracle” to retire securely. They stress the importance of planning over wishful thinking, cover the risks of recency bias, taxes, and underestimating longevity, and explain why flexibility—delaying Social Security, working part-time, downsizing, or even using a reverse mortgage—may be essential. Listener questions include a 30%+ ETF return (AVDV), the new rules allowing 529 rollovers to Roth IRAs, and a deep dive into Facet Wealth versus Northwestern Mutual, with a reminder about low-cost index investing and the value of fiduciary advice. 0:04 How confident Americans are about retirement security 1:37 “It would take a miracle” vs. “You need a plan” 2:37 The value of professional reviews and planning tools 3:52 No perfect time to retire, recency bias, and government as your “partner” 5:08 Retirement timing compared to parenthood decisions 6:06 The limits of Social Security and lifestyle realities 7:18 Adapting by working longer, delaying Social Security, or reducing expenses 8:25 Cutting wants, working part-time, or considering home equity solutions 9:23 Reverse mortgages and staged retirement strategies 10:03 Purpose, social life, and health in retirement 11:25 Listener question: international ETF with a 30%+ return (AVDV up 38% YTD) 13:02 Why diversification matters for capturing those “30 percenters” 13:22 Listener question: 529 rollovers to Roth IRAs and beneficiary changes 16:21 Listener case study: RN nearing retirement, Facet vs. Northwestern Mutual 18:07 Facet’s flat annual fee structure compared to traditional AUM fees 20:54 The pitfalls of Northwestern Mutual’s high fees and insurance roots 23:34 When to hire a fiduciary and why $1.5M+ means it’s time 25:30 Advisor costs vs. DIY investing, plus an extended “haircut analogy” 27:13 Shout-out to AI-generated Talking Real Money show art Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Reality Radio for a really great future. We're talking real money.

0:10.6

Okay, so be honest. This is not directed at those of you who are well into retirement because you already know.

0:18.8

But for those of you who are working your way toward retirement,

0:23.4

how confident are you that that will be, one, possible, and two, financially comfortable?

0:34.8

Because it turns out a pretty sizable portion of your fellow Americans

0:43.2

are not too confident about their ability to retire well. And by well, we mean with enough money

0:51.7

to take care of your needs and maybe some of the wants, too.

0:55.9

Yeah. And by the way, they use the term retire securely, which is, that's slightly problematic.

1:02.7

Because secure to you is what to you. I mean, that's a bit of a challenge. And there's all of

1:08.5

them actually are a bit of a challenge. What anything means is it's

1:12.1

all fuzzy. Yeah, and the taxes investment managers did the survey, 750 Americans polled, people worried

1:20.0

about inflation, of course, cuts to government benefits, et cetera. And one out of five that they surveyed said, I don't think this

1:29.6

is going to work out. In fact, they used the term, one out of five said that would take a miracle

1:34.0

to retire securely, which is pretty strong words. And then somebody said, they don't need a

1:43.1

miracle, they need a plan. Wait, that sounds familiar,

1:46.7

doesn't it? Kind of mention that. Just kind of like us here on Talking Real Money. And the us is

1:51.4

me, Don McDonald, forgot to introduce myself. Yeah, please. Tom Cock forgot to introduce him. Yeah,

1:55.6

you guys, if you're listening, if you've listened more than once, you know who the heck we are.

2:00.8

Yes, that's true.

2:01.6

That's very true.

2:02.9

And there are into that plan, and we have mentioned this several times, and I think there's

2:09.0

videos, if you want to go look at videos, our retirement stuff, all that stuff.

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