A maze of madness
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
4.7 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2020
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Conservative MP, Steve Baker makes his debut Planet Normal voyage in this turbulent week in politics. As the deputy chair of the Covid Recovery Group, a group of Tory MPs against lockdowns, he tells Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why a third lockdown could lead to an "enormous rebellion" in Parliament, why the PM must challenge SAGE more stringently and why he believes that Dominic Cummings leaving Downing Street won't impact upon Brexit.
Also on the podcast: Allison queries whether now is the right time for the Government's green agenda, and Liam brings a 'Deal or No Deal' Brexit update and has a stark warning for the PM if he neglects the Red Wall voters that won him the last election.
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| 0:00.0 | The Telugu... |
| 0:02.0 | ...podcasts. |
| 0:08.0 | Five. |
| 0:10.0 | I think the rebellion could be enormous if the government doesn't end lockdown in December. |
| 0:16.0 | Four. |
| 0:17.0 | The five days of Christmas, my Trulum sent to me a pair of plastic gloves so I didn't get contaminated by the quality street, Tim. |
| 0:26.0 | Three. |
| 0:27.0 | I never believed that Dominic Cummings was the guarantor of a decent Brexit. |
| 0:33.0 | Two. |
| 0:34.0 | It is not true to say that scientists who don't back lockdown are outliers, it just is not. It's wrong. |
| 0:42.0 | One. |
| 0:46.0 | We have left off. |
| 0:50.0 | And welcome again to Planet Normal, the Telegraph podcast with Alison Pearson. |
| 0:55.0 | Hello. |
| 0:56.0 | And me Liam Halligan. |
| 0:58.0 | Last Friday the 13th, the Prime Minister lost his chief strategist Dominic Cummings after inviting at the Court of King Boris. |
| 1:06.0 | Now Johnson's self-isolating for two weeks, despite testing negative for Covid, using a quick turnaround lateral flow test. |
| 1:14.0 | From his downing street bunker, doing PMQ's via Zoom, the Prime Minister's wound up the Scottish Nationalists, not difficult given their total outraged default setting, |
| 1:24.0 | by claiming an I quote, devolution's been a disaster. |
| 1:28.0 | And if we don't land that EU-free trade agreement, we'll remain back in Scotland, deliver its only vote, breaking up the United Kingdom, ending over 300 years of history. |
| 1:39.0 | Alison, it's been a week of vaccines, fascination and venal politics. |
| 1:44.0 | We're clinging on as you say in your latest Telegraph column, to what we can recall of reality, trapped in a maze of madness. |
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