A matter of life and debt

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

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🗓️ 5 March 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Beyond Brexit, the government begins the colossal task of sorting out UK-EU commerce, a US-UK trade deal… and maybe trade within the UK itself. Former DExEU permanent secretary Philip Rycroft sets out the scale of the job. Universal Credit: is it too late to stop now? Senior IfG Fellow and author of The Five Giants: A Biography Of The Welfare State Nicholas Timmins spells out what’s needed to save Iain Duncan Smith’s unloved legacy policy, including the brutal business of recovering £10bn social security debt from people who don’t know they owe it. And the Lib Dems’ Norman Lamb gives us some lessons learned during the party’s bruising experience into coalition. “Talking about a free trade deal is a bit of a misnomer. It’s about having less free trade than we have and mitigating the effects” – Philip Rycroft Presented by Bronwen Maddox with Joe Owen and Alex Thomas. Audio production by Alex Rees. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome back to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.
0:13.9	The week's not over yet, and it's even so a pretty full one. The Home Office is still grappling
0:19.0	with a fallout from the clash between its now ex-Permanent Secretary, Philip Rottenham, and it's still there, Home Secretary, Pridley Patel.
0:26.5	Check out the special podcast we recorded on Monday for more on that.
0:30.4	The government has also set out its battle plan for coronavirus, something which could yet derail its agenda, bring the country to a standstill or something like that,
0:38.3	we'll be looking at that in more detail over the next weeks, perhaps months, assuming we can all make it to a studio.
0:43.3	And at the same time, trade negotiations are getting underway with both the US and the EU at the same time,
0:49.3	as the UK seeks post-Brexit deals with both.
0:53.3	And that's what we're going to be focusing on today.
0:56.2	The dramas of the Brexit battles of the last Parliament feel a really long time ago,
1:00.2	but the talks over our future relationship with the EU,
1:03.1	and that trade deal with the US, if it happens,
1:05.7	they represent the toughest and most important negotiations
1:08.7	that this country has undertaken in decades.
1:11.8	So what does the UK really want?
1:14.3	Can it be secured by the end of the year?
1:16.7	And we're not doomsters, but what are the hazards ahead?
1:20.2	Later in the podcast, we'll be looking at the Universal Credit Program,
1:23.7	nearly a decade after it was first introduced,
1:26.2	with Nick Timmins, who's the author of a brand-new report for us on this colossal change for the social security system.
1:33.0	What needs to be done to make this much maligned reform work?
1:36.5	And as we approach the 10th anniversary of the formation of the coalition, we speak to Norman Lamb, former minister, former Lib Dem leadership candidate, and for a while, a Lib Dem MP who was not opposed to Brexit.
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