How do we describe our prevailing economic system?

It's quite interesting this because one of the kind of facets that particularly

of British political debate is this kind of eye-rolling anti- Intellectualism I suppose that if you try and describe the the system in which we

live how it works how it operates you get this particularly within the British media who don't

particularly like talking about ideas which I would say helps protect the status quo.

If you talk about this word, beginning with n, neoliberalism, the eye rolling starts. Oh, what is neoliberalism?

It's not a thing. this is just some pretentious

set of jargon that you leftist, you devious leftist

have come up with.

So, given that nonsense,

I'm particularly delighted to be joined by the incredible George Mobio,

who is one of our finest living journalists, and he's written this brilliant book with Peter Hodgson,

who will talk about this, he's never, they've never met, this is brilliant, is a book

called The Secret History of Neol liberalism and how it came to control your life.

Hello George, how you did? Hello, I'm, yeah, great things and lovely to talk to you.

There's very lovely to talk to you always.

Firstly, yeah, I'm just quite amused by the fact you've never met.

Can you just explain, people might be listening, how, you've written the book the fact you've never met. Can you just explain people might be listening

how you've written the book with something you've never met?

It's fun, that's a fun idea, I like it.

So Peter is a filmmaker, he lives in California,

as a lot of filmmakers do.

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