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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

A Massive Owen Goal

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In a series of unforced errors, the Government first whips its MPs to rescind the suspension of OWEN PATERSON MP for lobbying and rethink the entire Commons standards process… then suffers a rebellion and a roasting in the press… and then reverses their decision entirely. How damaging is this episode? And is there a case for reforming the system? Plus, we hear the latest on COP26 from RICHARD BLACK, senior associate of climate change non-profit the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit, who’s on the spot in Glasgow.  • “Yes, there is a case to be made for reforming the standards process, but not when you’re investigating a former Cabinet Minister.” – JILL RUTTER • “If you have a PM who is willing to use his political capital to protect someone who has broken the rules, there is no recourse in our system” – TIM DURRANT • “Upending a whole system to protect one of your own laid the Government open to charges that it would just protect its friends.”– JILL RUTTER • “If the country is going to become carbon neutral then the countryside is going to have to become carbon negative” –  RICHARD BLACK Presented by Bronwen Maddox with Tom Sasse, Jill Rutter and Tim Durrant.  Audio production by Alex Rees. Inside Briefing is a Podmasters Production for the IfG.  https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast was recorded shortly before Owen Patterson resigned.

0:14.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:18.9

I'm Bronwyn Maddox. It's a podcast of two parts today.

0:23.2

Yesterday, MPs controversially voted to put off making a decision on whether to suspend

0:27.8

Conservative MP Owen Patterson from the House of Commons. Today, after massive backlash in Parliament

0:34.2

and across the front pages, the government is rowing back fast,

0:38.3

in fact, U-turning.

0:39.7

So what is going on?

0:40.8

What does this say about the system that governs MP's behaviour and how much damage has this

0:46.0

done?

0:47.1

It will make sense of a story that is unfolding as we report.

0:50.9

And from politicians coming together to find a way to save an MP's job,

0:54.6

to the rather more edifying spectacle of politicians coming together, sort of,

0:59.1

to find ways to save the planet.

1:01.5

We're going to head to Glasgow, where the eyes of the world have been on COP 26,

1:05.4

and after travelling to Scotland, many by private jet, which did not pass without comment,

1:10.0

world leaders have tried to come up

1:11.7

with a plan to tackle climate change. So what deals have been struck? Where do we go from here?

1:16.8

We'll take a look at that too. All that to come. I'm delighted to be joined throughout by Jill Rutter,

1:22.0

IFG senior fellow and veteran of many government departments and number 10 too. Hi Jill. Good afternoon, Brumann.

1:28.5

Always good to have you with us. Let's start in Westminster because that's where this week's

1:32.2

biggest upheaval is. This story is moving fast, but it goes something like this. MPs voted not to

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