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The Indicator from Planet Money

A macroeconomist walks into a bar fight

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to the macroeconomic bar fight. Today, fists are being thrown over the causes of high inflation. But off to the corner stands John Cochrane, an economist with a core explanation for rising prices: government borrowing and spending.

Check out some of our earlier episodes on inflation:
- Why some economists last year were concerned about low interest rates and high government borrowing and spending
- Why the term 'transitory' inflation was banned by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta as consumers spent and spent in 2021
- How the war in Ukraine raises prices around the world, including food prices, and a look at grain exports stuck in the country
- Whether corporate greed is to blame for inflation

Transcript

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:12.0

Price inflation numbers are out today.

0:13.9

The Consumer Price Index, the CPI, grew at 8.6% over the last year.

0:19.5

This is a high rate that has disappointed a lot of people who were hoping that the high

0:23.6

inflation in the US had peaked.

0:25.9

Over the last year, we have heard a lot of explanations for why the high inflation

0:30.7

is happening.

0:31.7

I'm sure Whelan, but now we can both just rattle off a few off the top of our heads.

0:36.0

Why don't you go first?

0:37.2

Oh, oh boy, pop quiz.

0:38.7

I'm ready.

0:39.7

OK, pandemic supply chain disruptions.

0:42.1

Low interest rates.

0:43.6

War in Ukraine.

0:44.6

Workers being sick.

0:45.6

Yes.

0:46.6

Anything else?

0:47.6

What else in China?

0:48.6

Corporate greed.

0:49.6

Thank you for being game to do my pop quiz, Whelan.

0:52.9

I appreciate it.

0:54.4

But one economist thinks that all of these reasons are just a distraction.

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