Hello, welcome to the theology podcast. I'm C.R. Wiley and I'm a pastor. I've written books and I'm an editor at Touchstone magazine among other things. Tom, how about you?

I'm Tom Price, I teach theology, ethics, philosophy,

and other things, one of the places

Gordon and Conwell Theological Seminary.

Today is Glenn's day.

So Glenn, get us rolling with your introduction and then the topic.

I'm Glenn Sunshine.

I'm a retired history professor specializing in the reformation and that will probably

come back to haunt us. I'm also a senior fellow at the Coulson Center for Christian

worldview, Ministry of Ministry Associated Reflections Ministries, and I've got my

own ministry called Every Square Inch Ministries.

I thought today, you know, we've talked about a lot of different things and we did

an episode about now it's quite a while ago on the idea of the universe as

Sacramento and actually that just came up in our last episode, I thought

it might be worthwhile to spend some time talking about sacraments.

And this is a topic that for some reason,

evangelicals in general tend to shy away from.

And there are a whole lot of other things

going on here,

I suspect, which we'll probably get into.

But one of the places I think that it's worthwhile to begin

is the idea of what a sacrament is and the distinction between that is often

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