A Long Road to Glory: The Lionesses Origin Story | Part One
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
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🗓️ 2 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to another episode of It Was What It Was with hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they delve into the history of The Lionesses and the true story behind the first ever women's Euros. This episode explores the struggles and triumphs of women's football, from the controversial FA ban in 1921, to England's historic victory in the 2025 Euros. Rob and Jonathan look into the pioneering efforts of teams like the Dick, Kerr Ladies and the Manchester Corinthians, looking at how women's football overcame a 50-year ban to shine on the world stage. Join us as we uncover the groundbreaking stories and resilient pioneers behind this incredible journey through a century of women's football history.
00:00 Introduction: Girls and Football
00:51 The Ban on Women's Football
01:37 The Struggle and Triumph of Women's Football
03:02 The Dick, Kerr Ladies and Their Legacy
04:22 The Impact of the FA Ban
07:00 International Tours and Recognition
12:59 Manchester Corinthians: A New Hope
18:34 Cultural Contrasts in Women's Football
20:48 The First Women's Euros: A Hidden History
22:10 The Rise and Fall of the International Ladies Football Association
26:21 Manchester Corinthians: Pioneers of Women's Football
32:21 Missed Opportunities and Reflections
38:44 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
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| 0:00.0 | We were girls. We wanted to play football. |
| 0:10.1 | Girls don't play football. Oh yes, we do. |
| 0:13.7 | Welcome to It Was What It Was, the Football History Podcast. I'm Jonathan Wilson and with Rob Draper. |
| 0:18.4 | And that, excitingly, was the voice of producer Beth, somehow summoning up all her acting chops to play the role of Northern Woman and quoting Linda Hallam, who is a Manchester Corinthians player in the 1960s and 70s. |
| 0:34.0 | And what we're talking about today, a few weeks after England's success at year 2025, is how we got to this point. |
| 0:41.2 | So if you listen to our Dick Kerr's Ladies' podcast a long time ago, do go back and listen to that. |
| 0:47.5 | They were getting huge crowds at the end of the first war just afterwards. |
| 0:51.7 | But then women's football is banned in 1921. So what we're |
| 0:56.1 | going to look at today is what happens between 1921 |
| 0:59.1 | and the present. How do we get from the ban, from women not being allowed to play |
| 1:03.9 | football to England's glory of successive euros? So Rob, |
| 1:08.3 | how are we going to do 100 years, just over 100 years of history in, in what, two episodes? |
| 1:13.9 | Well, to be fair, we're going to do about 50. |
| 1:15.8 | I think we're going to get us to the first ever official lioness's game in the early 70s. |
| 1:21.0 | We won't be doing right up to the Euro. |
| 1:24.6 | Try it if I think we can save that for another podcast. |
| 1:26.7 | Because this is a fascinating journey. I think still an undertold journey. I think if you ask most people, they would know that |
| 1:32.4 | the FA now banned women's football. Most people are cognizant of that fact. But watching the lionesses |
| 1:38.4 | and their triumph and watching that fantastic parade on the Mall in London. |
| 1:46.8 | The euphoria is incredible. |
| 1:53.4 | And I think people appreciate that these are women who've had a difficult backstory if you look back in history. |
| 1:56.0 | But I really don't think people understand quite how difficult it was. |
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