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everything secure. Erica, Gerard, welcome to a little wiser. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to talk to you

today. I can tell. You seem just very, very excited to be hearing my voice.

No, I really am.

I'm really excited to talk about this episode.

I've been thinking about it all week.

Okay, good, good.

So today we are going to talk about not my interview, because we called it a conversation.

It was not an interview with Joshua Walters, who it a conversation. It was not an interview.

With Joshua Walters, who shares a diagnosis with me.

Although it had shown up in our lives very differently, and that is bipolar disorder.

So he's a writer, a performer, a hip hop artist.

I mean, really, really, really creative.

And he uses his stories about his life with mental health, which has included like a dozen stays in mental hospitals and institutions.

And it was just so charming and interesting and, you know mental hospitals and institutions and it was just so charming and uh interesting and yeah

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