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Ear Hustle

A Little Streets, a Little Romance, a Little Deception

Ear Hustle

Ear Hustle & Radiotopia

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.921.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Wali was on his way to make a life-altering decision when a book made him reconsider. Shaka’s 40 years on death row were shaped by three books picked out for him by a prison librarian. At three California prisons, books and libraries are thriving.

Thank you to everyone who talked to us about books for this episode, including: Lanika, Wendy, Tameka, Latoya, Erica, Amy Lynn, Elizabeth, Mariam, Rosa, Mei, Lori Ann, Charity, Jasmine, Kaieesha, Diamond, Elisa, Debanee, Kaylee, Tina, and Cleo at the Central California Women’s Facility; Chelsea and Lawanica at the California Institution for Women; Tommy at the Crossroads Juvenile Center; and Shaka, Wali, Jamie, Carrington, Tommie, Raul, Ammen, Cristian, Kevin, and Henok at the San Quentin Rehabilitation Center, as well as Lee, for reading all of our book excerpts!

Thanks also to all of the librarians who called in to tell us about the most popular books at their institutions: Jenny Rogers, Melody Kinnamon, Victoria Van Hyning, Deb Kyle, Renee Welsh, Kristi Kenney, Talibah Chikwendu, Chelsea Jordan-Makely, Claudia, Maty Cropley, Ali, and Charlotte Sanders.

This episode was scored with music by Derrell Sadiq Davis, Antwan Williams, Fernando Arruda, and Earlonne Woods.

Big thanks to Acting Warden Andes and Lt. Berry at San Quentin Rehabilitation Center; Acting Warden Parker, Associate Warden Lewis, and Lt. Newborg at the California Institution for Women; and Warden De La Cruz and Lt. Williams at the Central California Women’s Facility for their support of the show.

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0:00.0

It's Madeline Barron from In the Dark. I spent the past four years investigating a crime.

0:10.0

When you're driving down this road, I'd plan on killing somebody.

0:13.0

A rough.

0:14.0

A four-year investigation, hundreds of interviews, thousands of documents, all in an effort

0:21.0

to see what the U.S. military has kept from the public for years.

0:25.0

Did you think that a war crime had been committed?

0:28.0

I don't have any opinion on that.

0:30.0

Season 3 of In the Dark is available now wherever you get your podcasts.

0:37.0

Good evening everybody. I'm Nate Query from the Decemberists. The following episode of

0:49.6

ear hustle contains language and content that may not be appropriate for all

0:53.2

listeners discretion is advised.

0:57.2

Some people shouldn't be allowed to walk around in society. No matter how old they get,

1:12.0

they can always be looking for somebody to victimize.

1:17.0

So, maybe the death penalty is not the answer,

1:22.0

but a cage is definitely the answer.

1:26.0

So you do think there's people that need to be

1:28.8

separated from society?

1:30.0

Locked away.

1:37.0

This is Shaka. He spent over 40 years on death row at San Quentin. How did you feel being housed with people that you had those thoughts about. I know you said you lived

1:43.2

amongst that for 40 years. Which is where the books come here because you know if I

1:50.7

spent my time trying to elevate my state of mind instead of worried about the people that I live next door to.

2:02.0

In a place like Death Row where life is like confined and diminished but also chaotic,

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