"A little more than nothing is better than nothing" w/ Michael Barenboim
Makdisi Street
Bayt al Makdisi
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🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
The brothers welcome the prominent violinist, classical musician and Professor at the Barenboim-Said Akademie Michael Barenboim to have a heart-felt discussion about the relationship between classic music and dissent, his regret at not speaking out earlier in his life about Palestine, his horror at the ongoing Gaza genocide, and the implications of anti-Palestinian racism and repressive climate in Germany despite Berlin having the largest Palestinian community in Europe, the question of boycott, and the legacy and current meaning of his father and (our uncle) Edward Said's famous collaboration in creating the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra and the Barenboim-Said Akademie in Berlin.
Date of recording: September 1, 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | People are generally cowardly. They don't want to risk their career. They don't want to risk also the kind of socially awkward situations. They don't want to take part in these. |
| 0:11.0 | And all of this sounds ridiculous in the face of a genocide, but it's still undeniably what is going on in Germany. |
| 0:18.0 | So I always hope that me doing what I'm doing, if it can motivate |
| 0:22.9 | a few of my colleagues in academia and in culture, they don't have to do as much as me, but |
| 0:30.3 | if they do a little, a little more than nothing is still better than nothing, that would make |
| 0:37.4 | what I do even more worthwhile. |
| 0:41.3 | Welcome everyone to a new episode of Marti C Street. |
| 0:44.3 | My name is Usama and I'm here with my brothers, Karim and Sadi as usual. |
| 0:50.3 | And today we are delighted to welcome a very special guest, Michael Baramboyim, who is a world-famous violinist, a professor at the Baramboym Saeed Academy, and a concert master of the West Eastern Divan Orchestra, which was founded by his father, Daniel Baramboym, and our uncle, Edward Saeed. |
| 1:11.7 | Since early 2024, Michael has come into the spotlight for speaking out about Gaza, about the situation |
| 1:17.6 | of Palestinians. He is part of Make Freedom Ring, which is a classical musicians collective |
| 1:23.8 | supporting Palestine, and a member of the Palestinian and Jewish academics, PGA, which |
| 1:28.9 | is based in Berlin. He is also a co-curator of the Kilime talks, platforming Palestinian artists |
| 1:38.8 | and academics and leads this ensemble called the Ensemble Nesmi, which is a classical ensemble of Palestinian |
| 1:46.4 | musicians. Michael, welcome to Maghtisi Street. |
| 1:49.6 | Hi, it's thank you for inviting me. |
| 1:52.2 | Well, Michael, I guess our first and inevitable question would be, how did someone such as yourself, |
| 2:00.2 | you know, a brilliant violinist, how did you go from being |
| 2:03.5 | a violinist or why did you go from being a violinist to becoming a voice of conscience, |
| 2:08.8 | in a sense, speaking out about the Gaza genocide so forcefully and for Palestinian equality |
| 2:15.7 | and rights? What made you go from one to the other? |
| 2:20.1 | Right. |
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