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A Little Bit Culty w/ Sarah Edmondson & Anthony "Nippy" Ames

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Edmundson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames are survivors of the NXIVM cult and hosts of the A Little Bit Culty Podcast. They are the married couple and whistleblowers documented in the critically-acclaimed HBO series “The Vow,” Sarah and Nippy have a lot to say about their experience, and burning questions to ask people with similar stories. They’re here to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive situations one little red flag at a time. Sarah and Nippy are also both successful actors and producers. In 2019, Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life. In this moving and insightful conversation Sarah and Nippy look back at their intensely dramatic time as a part of NXIVM, exploring the missteps and courageous actions they took along the way. The couple share with Rachel the uniquely complex relationship dynamics they experienced while in the group and the powerful love and devotion that kept them together. They explain how their relationship offered them the strength needed to leave and ultimately put an end to NXIVM and Keith Ranerie's destructive abuses. Before You Go: Rachel explores NXIVM's idea of inner deficiency, comparing the problematic diagnostic techniques found in some therapeutic practices to the manipulative narratives used by cult leaders. For more info on Sarah and Nippy's podcast visit: https://www.alittlebitculty.com/ Find more about Sarah's book here: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/ You can listen to our previous episodes on NXIVM here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sets/nxivm Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Jamie Gunning, Brett Jellen, Gabrielle Coleman, Danielle Hirokane, Jena Higdon, Rebecca Sigel, Cecilia, The New Inquiry, Kymberley Alberts Sauer, Kristen King, Elizabeth Wolfington, Ryan Pence, Amanda Smith, Julia Colmenero-Skeaff, Niamh McGee, Jo A Gardner and, Amber Berger To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.5

Hi, everyone. Before I introduced the guest for today, I just wanted to make mention of the fact that during one of the previous episodes, I mentioned that we have a lot of listeners in Ireland.

0:25.6

And I was curious to hear back from people from that part of the world to find out what resonated with them.

0:31.2

And it was fascinating to hear why.

0:33.5

So if you have any other stories you'd like to share, please send them my way.

0:37.3

And if there are stories you want to share on the podcast, please let us know. You can email us at indoctrination show at gmail.com.

0:49.9

And for today, I am very excited to introduce the guests for our special crossover episode.

0:59.1

So excited, in fact, that we are releasing it a couple of days earlier than our usual Wednesday release.

1:05.7

This interview will also be aired on the A Little Bit Culty podcast feed. Our guests today, Sarah Edmondson and

1:14.9

Anthony Nippy Ames, are survivors of the Nexium cult and hosts of the A Little Bit Culty podcast.

1:22.6

They are the married couple and whistleblowers documented in the critically acclaimed HBO series The Vow.

1:29.8

Sarah and Nippy have a lot to say about their experience and burning questions to ask people

1:36.2

with similar stories. They're here to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive

1:42.2

situations, one little red flag at a time.

1:46.2

Sarah and Nippy are also both successful actors and producers.

1:49.9

And in 2019, Sarah published Scarred the true story of how I escaped Nexium,

1:56.3

the cult that bound my life.

2:00.5

Here are Sarah and Nippy.

2:11.6

I am so happy to have Sarah and Nipi.

2:17.0

I know that you have your own show and you've told your

2:20.7

story and Sarah, you have a book and you've been out there in the world letting people know

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