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I'm Josh Peck and I'm Ben Soffer and we're the good guys.

There's a lot of guys out there and we're the good ones.

We're massive.

Huge.

Huge like I'm actually like a sea-list celebrity now like my name was mentioned in people like

I can't believe that.

People magazine.

People digital though.

Yeah it was it wasn't there's is there still print.

Yeah there's people print people don't read that though.

My people reading people people reading people who need people people who need people.

Yeah that's always sort of my like discerning like did we really make it if they were willing

to spend the money on ink yeah totally yeah but how quickly do you think you can flip a

people magazine like there's something about a newspaper the black and white of it all

the quick printing press but I feel like people such like a vast magazine you can't just like

flip it topically tomorrow it's a weekly it's a weekly magazine really yeah it's because it's

it's it's an elevated oh god I don't want to get myself in the trouble here but like yeah

I was going to call it an elevated tabloid which it's not but it's it's wonderfully it's an

easy read by the way who's going to get you in trouble for saying that people is an elevated

tabloid people that sounds like the level of fear of cancellation I don't know if I should say

people isn't elevated tabloid I'm a cisgender white man I'm walking in tightrope and every turn

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