You're going to see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Welcome to the show my friends Greg Kockel here at Stand to Reason. I had to unmute there for a minute and I had to find my button.

But we're live and lively here on STR and looking forward to talking to you today about anything

that's on your mind in the area of ethics, values, and religion.

I'll give you a piece of my mind and you can give me a piece of yours. That's the rule.

I want to start out by talking a little bit about some study I've been doing lately. I just finished the solid ground for, I think it's November, yeah, November.

And I've been working hard on it because it was a hard solid ground.

I was exploring the whole issue of the formation of the New Testament canon.

Now, it's actually somewhat controversial

because there are different approaches

that people have taken, and there's actually two extremes that I spoke about and the I

think the right answer that is the historically consistent answer, the

the historically sound answer.

In other words, what the early church actually did is right in the middle of the two

extremes on the one hand you have the extreme view that says

well the canon that is those 27 books that finally were agreed upon by everybody at about the end of the fourth century

as being those books that we are considering authoritative that was a political

process

that was just uh... the winners who wrote history political process.

That was just the winners who wrote history and they excluded the books they didn't like and they

included the ones that they did.

An extreme version of this comes from Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code.

That's been, well, that's been 2003 or something

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