What is going on everyone? Kevin from Epic Gardening here. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening

podcast. We're closing out a really fun week with Farmer Gregg from the Urban Farm and

the Urban Farm Podcast as well as many other things you heard yesterday grow

pH X the project that he started to grow the Phoenix Urban Farming community and we

learned a lot about that and we've learned a lot about a lot of different topics on this week, healthy soil, becoming an urban

farmer, just the way that we need to play with instead of against nature, killing your

fruit trees and how not to kill them hopefully but today we're talking

about aquaponics which does seem like a little bit of a left turn for me Greg

and it's it's definitely a pet topic of my own I love it and I actually kind of

started in hydroponics myself so I do have an affinity for these soilless growing

techniques but I would love to know given your history in the space, kind of how

you've seen aquaponics transform over time and how you got started in the first place.

Cool.

Well, for starters, when I was 12 years old, I had a paper out and one of the things that I

saved for was a fish aquarium.

I was really, really into fish aquariums when I was younger

into fish and fish farming that's kind of I graduated to that. I used to hang out at a local fish store here in Phoenix called Phoenix Tropical.

And I was there one day, you know, as a 14 or 15 year old, I wasn't working there, but I was just hanging out there.

And the guy that was working there, his name was Bill.

He says, Greg, I got a fish pond that clean.

Now I'm, remember, I'm like 14 or 15 years old, right?

He said, I got a fish pond to clean this weekend. You want to come and

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