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Off Air with Jane & Fi

A life of letting them dangle

Off Air with Jane & Fi

The Times

News, Relationships, Community, Society & Culture, The Times, Chat, Entertainment News, Entertainment, Conversation, Jane Garvey, Fi Glover, Women, Times Radio

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This is an after-hours podcast episode…Welcome to the twilight zone… well, 4:12pm. Expect more butter-dish chat, non-traditional ratatouille, neutering your pets (and your ex), and there's an accent warning...


Plus, Steve Crawshaw, journalist and former UK director at Human Rights Watch, joins us to discuss his book Prosecuting the Powerful: War Crimes and the Battle for Justice.


Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.


Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.


You can listen to our 'I'm in the cupboard on Christmas' playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ


If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio


Follow us on Instagram! @janeandfi


Podcast Producers: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Now, I am so happy to admit that every day is a learning curve day.

0:15.3

And the next time I discuss the outcome of an incredibly popular TV program.

0:22.2

I am not just going to say spoiler alert like that and then carry on.

0:26.9

I'm going to say spoiler alert and then I'm going to count to five.

0:30.5

I won't even be doing that in my head.

0:32.4

I'll be going very slowly one through to five because I did I just rushed in to the night managers,

0:40.8

de Numer, and a couple of people,

0:44.2

Jeannie in particular.

0:45.7

Quite angry.

0:46.5

Yes, just said, you've ruined the ending

0:49.1

by giving your opinion on the outcome of the series

0:51.6

which you had already watched.

0:53.0

I very much hope that nobody

0:54.4

has joined this podcast. Well, what I will say about us is that we do own our mistake.

1:00.9

Well, we do, no, and I'm happy to because it's not enough to just say spoiler alert, because it doesn't

1:05.2

give people who aren't listening with something in their hands at that moment, enough time to

1:10.6

run across the room and turn

1:11.8

down the radiogram. So, Jeannie, sincere apologies for that. But hello to all of the people

1:19.5

who did agree, actually, that they weren't satisfied by the ending. I'm not going to say anything

1:24.8

else about the colour of the ending or the type of the ending, but Helen Clark is feeling very much the same way as well and a couple of other people. This one comes in from, oh no, that's Rowena. She was gutted as well. All right. Well, it didn't bother me at all because I haven't watched any of it. So you say what you like. Well, that's kind of you. But I would have been really annoyed. Oh, it's Alison. Maybe that's your sister. She got in touch to say, I would have said exactly the same about it. So there we go. Okay. Well, that's Apology Corner over with. Very early in this podcast. It is Wednesday as we speak, and we're doing it in a little bit later than we normally would.

2:05.9

We'd normally do it before lunch, we're doing it after lunch today, the podcast.

2:09.1

Let us know if you can detect any difference in quality or whether it's still the same old Tosh.

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